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A STUNNINGLY simple question about JOHN 3:16 "For God so Loved the world."

by Terry in

on what basis did god so love the world?.

the world of mankind had been condemned to death by god's curse in eden!.

god viewed mankind as "dust on the scales".

Meeting Junkie No More

Terry, I think your question makes perfect sense. And everyone finds answers that work FOR HIM OR HER. Their answer may or may not satisfy you, but in the end, you have to make peace with yourself.

After a lot of Bible reading and trying to come to grips with the wildly divergent 'God' being portrayed, I came to realize that God is wholeness of our being, bringing the two opposing forces into equilibrium...so maybe God so loving the world was the opposite pole to his condemnatory nature revealed at the beginning - making the creation whole...and that is what each of our own lives are all about too, no?

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Legal language in old mags...huh...

by alamb in

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just looking though some old literature this morning and found:.

"and our society cannot afford to be drawn into the affair legally or take the responsibility for the way the case turns out.

" and, "we merely offer the above information on request, but can assume no responsibility for the decision and course the reader may take.

Meeting Junkie No More

Good find! Adding to arsenal!

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A STUNNINGLY simple question about JOHN 3:16 "For God so Loved the world."

by Terry in

on what basis did god so love the world?.

the world of mankind had been condemned to death by god's curse in eden!.

god viewed mankind as "dust on the scales".

Meeting Junkie No More

Ok, I'll add my 2 cents to this debate. I too struggled with questions like these. They all disappeared for me after I realized that the Bible absolutely CANNOT be taken literally... the entire collection is metaphor and myth but encapsulates a very basic truth.

One of the best books in my opinion you can read on this topic is "The Bible and the Psyche" - Individuation Symbolism in the Old Testament by Edward F. Edinger. All of the stories in the Bible revolve around consciousness, the knowing and being known which belong to the phenomenon of consciousness. How else to believe that a God would 'choose' only one nation? Similarly, the sacrificial nature of the Jewish religion is a relationship between the ego and the Self...carried over into the New Testament. Redemption is a metaphor for the Self desperately needing the ego to know it. I am very poor at explaining this type of thing, but the book is a real eye-opener and makes all of this much easier to swallow...I could never accept that God would have purposedly 'sacrificed' his only begotten Son to 'redeem' mankind, but as metaphor, it makes sense.

The book of John was the latest of the Gospels to be written and I don't think I need to set out again that much of it was espousing already established 'Church' quasi-orthodoxy vis-a-vis those who did not believe Christ as being a real human person...this just nailed it down, so to speak.

I am not as eloquent as many here, hope you understand my ramblings...oh, and definitely READ THAT BOOK!

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VERY BAD NEWS...my son is going to Bethel............

by oompa in

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i can not describe the sadness of hearing him tell me, i asked him to think about what a great part time job he has, with free schooling.

he says they will probably take him back.

his abilities are suitable for closing down brooklyn, so at least he will be there (i love nyc).

Meeting Junkie No More

OOmpah;

Well, initially this might be BAD NEWS...but it might have a silver lining...out of something bad, something good can come...there are many possibilities here. It sounds like you are pretty down about it now, but this might actually be all he needs to wake him up and see what is REALLY going on...

If nothing else, be there for him when he comes to visit and always have a listening ear - you could have access to some information 'straight from the horse's mouth' as it were. Occasionally I hear some real juicy tidbits straight from the 'hornet's nest' when I have extended family visit - and some of it is really 'GOOD' news to me, although what they are doing is really spilling the beans on developments at the hub that seem to them to be attacks on 'God's organization' - little do they know how I treasure their little revelations!

But I do feel for you, because it will initially be difficult.

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Campaign Strategy

by Mickey mouse in

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i noticed there's a private forum here for discussing campaign strategy and i understand the need for discretion in this area.

i was just wondering how active this forum is in formulating strategies to weaken the wbts?

i haven't seen much discussion of strategy on the other open forums.

Meeting Junkie No More

I think your boycott idea and show of solidarity thread is a great start. I've got an idea myself, not sure if anyone's thought of it, and don't want to post it openly but don't have access to the strategy section....not sure how to proceed...

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conversations starters for field service

by megaflower in

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1. why do we grow old and die.

2.what is the condition of the dead.

3. what is the purpose of human life.

Meeting Junkie No More

My conversation starter was always 'Good morning'. It got so bad that even on occasions when I went out in the evening, I would invariably say 'Good morning'.

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The Watchtower Society Shows Their True Colors Again

by TooBad TooSad in

in the new may awake magazine there is an article "is philanthropy the answer?

i knew what the answer.

was going to be before i even read it.

Meeting Junkie No More

Is there a scan of this entire article available anywhere?

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From the Book of Enoch

by Aleman in

check this:.

1behold, he comes with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment upon them, and destroy the wicked, and reprove all the carnal for everything which the sinful and ungodly have done, and committed against him.

- 1 enoch 2:1.

Meeting Junkie No More

I had missed the post on Stonehenge, so I guess even the pyramids can now be explained! But that still leaves the Nazca lines - has anyone figured out how they were built, without the need for space visitors? Geeze, the things you learn here at JWD....some of you guys surely have the answer for everything!

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From the Book of Enoch

by Aleman in

check this:.

1behold, he comes with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment upon them, and destroy the wicked, and reprove all the carnal for everything which the sinful and ungodly have done, and committed against him.

- 1 enoch 2:1.

Meeting Junkie No More

Ok, bizarre as this may sound, and perhaps others know more, I just happened to view a film the other day in which Erich von Danniken (spelling) believes the Egyptian pyraminds were built by Enoch! I had never heard this before...it was mentioned only in passing, so I don't have any more details but it is certainly intriguing. This is a guy who studies earth's mysteries, of which the Egyptian pyramids are certainly in the forefront...apparently there some technology was used in their construction that was light-years ahead of its time, so Aleman, I am with you on this one...my mind is OPEN to all possibilities...

Edited to add: I just noticed I spellt pyramids 'pyraminds' - that is UNCANNY!

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From the Book of Enoch

by Aleman in

check this:.

1behold, he comes with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment upon them, and destroy the wicked, and reprove all the carnal for everything which the sinful and ungodly have done, and committed against him.

- 1 enoch 2:1.

Meeting Junkie No More

Very interesting, Aleman. I know James mentions the books of Enoch, so they were known in the first century, and possibly the Flood account incorporates some of this material in its story of the 'sons of God' coming down to the 'daughters of men'...one of these books of Enoch was only discovered in th 1800's if I have my facts right...do you think these 'sons of God' could have been alien visitors from other planets?